“A military staffer detailed to the NSC, who was seated directly in front of Ciaramella and Misko during the meeting, confirmed hearing them talk about toppling Trump during their private conversation, which the source said lasted about one minute. The crowd was preparing to get up to leave the room at the time.
“After Flynn briefed [the staff] about what ‘America first’ foreign policy means, Ciaramella turned to Misko and commented, ‘We need to take him out,'” the staffer recalled. “And Misko replied, ‘Yeah, we need to do everything we can to take out the president.'”
Paul Sperry, “Whistleblower Was Overheard in ’17 Discussing With Ally How to Remove Trump,” Real Clear Investigations, 1/22/2020.